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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 22, 2023 17:34:04 GMT -5
Be sure to watch the video.
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Post by bluesmoke on Aug 26, 2023 7:50:16 GMT -5
So Tucker and his friend are claiming that our claim, that Ukraine is winning.....is false.
Just hogwash.
(1) Remember what happened to Putin/Russia's intial offensive of the war. The drive on Kiev? What happened. (2) Remember Ukraine's offensive last Fall when Russia lost massive amounts of territory? (3) And what about Ukraine's current offensive that started in June? If anyone check's deepstate map they will see that Ukraine is gaining ground in several areas and is now only about 20K from either directly cutting the lifeline railroad to Crimea or being able the shell it any time it needs to. Then What is Russia going to do?
And finally, just what has Russia done as to any offensive in the last 16 months or so that Ukraine didn't beat back? Maybe Bakmut which Wagner took. And where is Wagner now? And by the way, Ukraine pretty much has Bakmut surrounded now!
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Post by bluesmoke on Aug 26, 2023 7:58:43 GMT -5
This war resembles our own Civil War. Railroads were vital then, and absolutely vital to Russia now.
And there were the same critics in 1864 and 1865, that Grant and Sherman were losing. These type wars are won either by outflanking or a breakthru. It took Sherman about five months to outflank and cut the railroad south of Atlanta. It took Grant over nine months in Virginia/Petersburg seige to weaken and stretch Lee before he finally ordered a general attack over the whole front line of trenches. And Lee had to move out and give up the railroad connection and run at that point.
Same thing is happening right now before our very eyes. Will say one thing. It would be nice if Ukraine would get it done before middle of October before the weather changes and rain sets in. That factor might delay things.
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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 26, 2023 17:38:25 GMT -5
So Tucker and his friend are claiming that our claim, that Ukraine is winning.....is false. Just hogwash. (1) Remember what happened to Putin/Russia's intial offensive of the war. The drive on Kiev? What happened. (2) Remember Ukraine's offensive last Fall when Russia lost massive amounts of territory? (3) And what about Ukraine's current offensive that started in June? If anyone check's deepstate map they will see that Ukraine is gaining ground in several areas and is now only about 20K from either directly cutting the lifeline railroad to Crimea or being able the shell it any time it needs to. Then What is Russia going to do? And finally, just what has Russia done as to any offensive in the last 16 months or so that Ukraine didn't beat back? Maybe Bakmut which Wagner took. And where is Wagner now? And by the way, Ukraine pretty much has Bakmut surrounded now! My apology...I guess that's what happens when I read and watch other sources than you. I wish you would make a list to the sites you read so I can stay caught up on the real news.
Thanks in advance
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Post by vtownsf on Aug 26, 2023 18:11:01 GMT -5
So Tucker and his friend are claiming that our claim, that Ukraine is winning.....is false. Just hogwash. (1) Remember what happened to Putin/Russia's intial offensive of the war. The drive on Kiev? What happened. (2) Remember Ukraine's offensive last Fall when Russia lost massive amounts of territory? (3) And what about Ukraine's current offensive that started in June? If anyone check's deepstate map they will see that Ukraine is gaining ground in several areas and is now only about 20K from either directly cutting the lifeline railroad to Crimea or being able the shell it any time it needs to. Then What is Russia going to do? And finally, just what has Russia done as to any offensive in the last 16 months or so that Ukraine didn't beat back? Maybe Bakmut which Wagner took. And where is Wagner now? And by the way, Ukraine pretty much has Bakmut surrounded now! My apology...I guess that's what happens when I read and watch other sources than you. I wish you would make a list to the sites you read so I can stay caught up on the real news.
Thanks in advance
You got to remember chief....ONLY Bluewoke & his Marxist sources know & tell the real truth....ROTFLMAO....if you believe that I got some property on Sea Island for sale you need to look at!
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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 26, 2023 18:31:34 GMT -5
My apology...I guess that's what happens when I read and watch other sources than you. I wish you would make a list to the sites you read so I can stay caught up on the real news.
Thanks in advance
You got to remember chief....ONLY Bluewoke & his Marxist sources know & tell the real truth....ROTFLMAO....if you believe that I got some property on Sea Island for sale you need to look at! LOL
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Post by bluesmoke on Aug 29, 2023 14:54:50 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcBVHDF3v0This is sky news. Not American, but very informative by Michael Clark. I like his updates,and the one above is particularly informative on recent events in last 24 hours. He's a good source for information. That's what I look for is factual information from which to form conclusions. Let me know if you think he is informative because I think that's what you asked for?
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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 29, 2023 15:30:14 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcBVHDF3v0This is sky news. Not American, but very informative by Michael Clark. I like his updates,and the one above is particularly informative on recent events in last 24 hours. He's a good source for information. That's what I look for is factual information from which to form conclusions. Let me know if you think he is informative because I think that's what you asked for? Wow....Ukraine is kicking butt. All they need now is another hundred and 35 billion $ to finish the job.
wonk wonk
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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 29, 2023 15:55:52 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcBVHDF3v0This is sky news. Not American, but very informative by Michael Clark. I like his updates,and the one above is particularly informative on recent events in last 24 hours. He's a good source for information. That's what I look for is factual information from which to form conclusions. Let me know if you think he is informative because I think that's what you asked for? Wow....Ukraine is kicking butt. All they need now is another hundred and 35 billion $ to finish the job.
wonk wonk
BTW... Zelensky buys LUXURY MANSION in Egypt via his mother-in-law using Western aid money
Ouchie ouchie ouch
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Post by vtownsf on Aug 29, 2023 17:56:39 GMT -5
Wow....Ukraine is kicking butt. All they need now is another hundred and 35 billion $ to finish the job.
wonk wonk
BTW... Zelensky buys LUXURY MANSION in Egypt via his mother-in-law using Western aid money
Ouchie ouchie ouch
Well now....seems Zelensky's interested in much more than fighting the war....gotta put some of them dollars in his back pocket or should I say a big hunk of it....Zelensky ain't interested in winning the war....it's all about enriching himself....no wonder he & Obiden are such good buddies....he's a corrupt POS who the Ukrainian people ought to turn on!
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Post by bluesmoke on Aug 29, 2023 20:41:09 GMT -5
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Post by bluesmoke on Aug 29, 2023 20:56:40 GMT -5
Since I am familiar with American real estate contracts, this one interested me being that it was foreign.
Seems to be six pages long, but only three pages are revealed. Note: its a sales contract, no proof that the transaction closed. And no closing date shown. No amount of earnest money is shown. And its common on the signatures to at least type out who the persons are. You would think even in Egypt, dealing with a foreign buyer they would at least do that. Interesting find.
Not going back to look, but didn't seem to be a broker involved. You would think, even in Egypt one would be involved on a transaction of this sort.
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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 29, 2023 21:45:52 GMT -5
"The name on the contract is Olga Kiyashko." "Mrs. Zelenski's mother is Olha Kyiahko."
Here is another story and I know you will believe it because it is written by Business Insider.
Russian woman who shares name with Zelenskyy's mother-in-law fears mistaken identity arrest after a pro-Kremlin media campaign, say reports
"The name on the contract is Olga Kiyashko."
Now let go to the link you posted
"Olga Kiyashko, whose name matches the name of Zelenskyy’s mother-in-law, owns a VIP estate worth $5 million"
"The name on the contract is Olga Kiyashko."
wonk wonk
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Post by bluesmoke on Aug 30, 2023 0:00:41 GMT -5
Business Insider says Olga shares "a name" with Mrs. Zelenski's mother. That's not the same as claiming she shares the whole name now is it? Besides, Business Insider is actually quoting an old Moscow Times story. Surprised you are quoting a Pro Ukraine source.
But congrats, it looks like you have found the real buyer for the Egyptian property......if it actually sold.
Granted, it looks like its pretty hard over the internet to establish the exact name for Mrs. Zelinki's mother. Which just creates more doubt about your source's claim.
I did find this from one of those BUZZ websites:
Olha Kyiashko Olha Kyiashko is the mother of First Lady Zelenska.
She was an actress in the old Soviet regime. She was born in 1953 and is 69 years old now. She has other children whose information is not listed anywhere on the net.
BTW, 1953 would match up well to being Mrs. Zelinky's mother's probable age based on Mrs. Zelinky's age. Your link via the Moscow's Times show's a picture of Olga Ki as being MUCH younger.
Also not the same last names .......... as both are spelled slightly differnt.
But by all means post official proof of what Mrs. Zelinski's mother's actual name is. That way we can compare to what the sales contract says.
In the mean time........WONK, WONK.
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Post by trojanchief2 on Aug 30, 2023 11:50:14 GMT -5
Business Insider says Olga shares "a name" with Mrs. Zelenski's mother. That's not the same as claiming she shares the whole name now is it? Besides, Business Insider is actually quoting an old Moscow Times story. Surprised you are quoting a Pro Ukraine source. But congrats, it looks like you have found the real buyer for the Egyptian property......if it actually sold. Granted, it looks like its pretty hard over the internet to establish the exact name for Mrs. Zelinki's mother. Which just creates more doubt about your source's claim. I did find this from one of those BUZZ websites: Olha Kyiashko Olha Kyiashko is the mother of First Lady Zelenska. She was an actress in the old Soviet regime. She was born in 1953 and is 69 years old now. She has other children whose information is not listed anywhere on the net. BTW, 1953 would match up well to being Mrs. Zelinky's mother's probable age based on Mrs. Zelinky's age. Your link via the Moscow's Times show's a picture of Olga Ki as being MUCH younger. Also not the same last names .......... as both are spelled slightly differnt. But by all means post official proof of what Mrs. Zelinski's mother's actual name is. That way we can compare to what the sales contract says. In the mean time........WONK, WONK. "BTW, 1953 would match up well to being Mrs. Zelinky's mother's probable age based on Mrs. Zelinky's age. Your link via the Moscow's Times show's a picture of Olga Ki as being MUCH younger."
I know they aren't the same age..They are difference people with the same name in 2 different countries.
Please have your children read this to you...and have them to read it loud and slow.
punchng.com/luxurious-villa-owned-by-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyys-family-discovered-on-egyptian-coast/ "Olga Kiyashko, whose name matches the name of Zelenskyy’s mother-in-law, owns a VIP estate worth $5 million" "The name on the contract is Olga Kiyashko."...(and she is Zelenskyy's wife).
ouch
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