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Post by IntelliVent on Aug 26, 2019 16:05:50 GMT -5
...or how few you have on your roster, you can always find plenty of smaller, weaker, easy wins to pad your schedule and get a few "dubya's" for your football year.
Now the bad news: When you see a coach with 6 or 7 open dates and they don't schedule any other team in their size and class but go down to the lowest classification or find pushover teams not even in the league to fill out the remainder of the schedule.....
.....well, that program is never going to improve.
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Post by coachtech on Aug 26, 2019 16:41:02 GMT -5
...or how few you have on your roster, you can always find plenty of smaller, weaker, easy wins to pad your schedule and get a few "dubya's" for your football year. Now the bad news: When you see a coach with 6 or 7 open dates and they don't schedule any other team in their size and class but go down to the lowest classification or find pushover teams not even in the league to fill out the remainder of the schedule..... .....well, that program is never going to improve. Great insight. Care to elaborate or just want us to keep guessing what school you are talking about?
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Post by mdl on Aug 26, 2019 18:43:06 GMT -5
Well, it’s kinda a time honored tradition from FBS on down to schedule a few “cupcakes”. Power 5 schedules Group of 5, Group of 5 schedules FCS and so on. High school football is no stranger to this, especially if you think your team might not win their conference games on a upcoming year. Now, of course there are always a few lower classification schools eager to take on a “bigger boy” who is down this year.
So, as it’s not exactly news that this happens....who you got in view as looking for the soft schedule here?
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Post by IntelliVent on Aug 26, 2019 19:16:58 GMT -5
...or how few you have on your roster, you can always find plenty of smaller, weaker, easy wins to pad your schedule and get a few "dubya's" for your football year. Now the bad news: When you see a coach with 6 or 7 open dates and they don't schedule any other team in their size and class but go down to the lowest classification or find pushover teams not even in the league to fill out the remainder of the schedule..... .....well, that program is never going to improve. Great insight. Care to elaborate or just want us to keep guessing what school you are talking about? Uhhhhh.....I think the schedules are posted somewhere....it becomes pretty obvious. Just check the Class of the opponents. You're a pretty bright guy, I would guess.
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Post by IntelliVent on Aug 26, 2019 19:24:05 GMT -5
Y'all just check your favorite team's schedule.
I will listen out for the "OUCH" 'es.
Get it? I'm not talking about maximizing your W's over your L's.
I'm talking about BUILDING A PROGRAM that will become dominant in your Classification.
You don't do that by scheduling patsy's every time you have an opportunity to schedule someone NOT REQUIRED by your Region assignment (3 teams max!)
You do that by challenging your team whenever possible.
Of course you might like to win on Homecoming night so you get a pass for that one.
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Post by IntelliVent on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:43 GMT -5
Well, it’s kinda a time honored tradition from FBS on down to schedule a few “cupcakes”. Power 5 schedules Group of 5, Group of 5 schedules FCS and so on. High school football is no stranger to this, especially if you think your team might not win their conference games on a upcoming year. Now, of course there are always a few lower classification schools eager to take on a “bigger boy” who is down this year. So, as it’s not exactly news that this happens....who you got in view as looking for the soft schedule here? I don't like and don't watch UGA or any other SEC team play against Samford or other sub-par team. Who cares about such a game?? They should play other teams equivalent to their capability. I hate the new "SEC East and SEC West" conferences and the stupid conference championship. Teams should play challenging 10-game seasons and then advance based on their record versus quality opponents. Strength of schedule, winning margin, etc. It's all about the money these days in College. Other places, it's all about getting enough patsy teams to get a .500 record and convince the boosters that your team is great and that Coach knows what he's doing.
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Post by mdl on Aug 26, 2019 20:38:49 GMT -5
What’s funny is that you assume it’s just a weak AA that wants to schedule A school’s (for example). Reality often is the A school is really happy to take a shot at a weaker AA program. It’s not like the higher classification schools dictate the schedule and there is no $ involved like there is in college.. lower classifications do have a choice. I know last year my A school got calls from several AA (and AAA) schools wanting to play us and we were glad to take several of those games. This year we opened with 3 AA schools in a row, 1-1 so far....but we wanted the challenge so as to prep for region play.
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Post by IntelliVent on Aug 27, 2019 12:08:23 GMT -5
What’s funny is that you assume it’s just a weak AA that wants to schedule A school’s (for example). Reality often is the A school is really happy to take a shot at a weaker AA program. It’s not like the higher classification schools dictate the schedule and there is no $ involved like there is in college.. lower classifications do have a choice. I know last year my A school got calls from several AA (and AAA) schools wanting to play us and we were glad to take several of those games. This year we opened with 3 AA schools in a row, 1-1 so far....but we wanted the challenge so as to prep for region play. Um, I think you and I are in violent agreement. The way to get better is to challenge your team (and yourself). The mentality that you describe is exactly that for those A schools. It's the opposite that I'm highly critical of. Every open date is scheduled against the weakest competition you can find who will agree to play you. And you do see it in some specific programs in order to get a few dubya's. That's all I'm saying.....that and "you know who you are".
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Post by mdl on Aug 28, 2019 9:05:13 GMT -5
I know you and I agree on the idea of challenging your team. I am just suggesting it might be the A team that wants that game vs. a possibly weak AA as much or more than the AA team wants it. Who really knows? I get it though when a AA seems “allergic” to (out of region) challenge they are going to get a bit of side-eye.
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Post by plowboy08 on Aug 28, 2019 10:47:00 GMT -5
i agree for established programs now if you are taking over a team the has gone 0-10 1-9 2-8 multiple times over the past few years then you do whatever you can to teach your kids to win. Programs have to start somewhere.
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Post by mdl on Aug 28, 2019 11:04:26 GMT -5
i agree for established programs now if you are taking over a team the has gone 0-10 1-9 2-8 multiple times over the past few years then you do whatever you can to teach your kids to win. Programs have to start somewhere. Also true. Start up programs or programs in full on re-build need some W’s just to keep kids coming out. Nobody wants to get their brains beat in continuously. When the program my 4 sons play(ed) for started up it was rough. First couple of years were 1 or 2 win seasons. 3rd year coach scheduled a “light” as possible and we went 6-5. Gave the kids hope and more kids started coming out (as it didn’t look futile anymore). Then we went into scheduling more challenging opponents to improve since then and the rest is history .
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