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Post by TigerOne on Mar 5, 2020 7:54:36 GMT -5
What GHSA is trying to do with wrestling this next year? Are they trying to combine classes?
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Post by wrestling2018 on Mar 5, 2020 10:41:26 GMT -5
This what GHSA is voting on: Duals: 7 classes A-AA private, A-AA public, 3-A, 4-A, 5-A, 6-A, 7-A. Everyone will have regions. Top four in regions advance to dual "sectionals" at different locations. All 1st place teams will host another 2, 3, 4th place team. Top 4 from same region will be split up. At the dual sectionals 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3. Winners wrestle each other and only the champ advances to state duals. 8 team bracket.
Traditionals: 5-classes A-AA private, the name 4 classes will be divided among school enrollment. Lowest 25% enrollment Class-A, Next 25% enrollment Class-AA, second largest 25% Class-AAA, Largest25% enrollment Class-AAAA. You'll have regions. Top 4 advance to sectionals. Top 8 from sectionals advance to state for a 16 man bracket.
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Post by TigerOne on Mar 11, 2020 8:54:10 GMT -5
This what GHSA is voting on: Duals: 7 classes A-AA private, A-AA public, 3-A, 4-A, 5-A, 6-A, 7-A. Everyone will have regions. Top four in regions advance to dual "sectionals" at different locations. All 1st place teams will host another 2, 3, 4th place team. Top 4 from same region will be split up. At the dual sectionals 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3. Winners wrestle each other and only the champ advances to state duals. 8 team bracket. Traditionals: 5-classes A-AA private, the name 4 classes will be divided among school enrollment. Lowest 25% enrollment Class-A, Next 25% enrollment Class-AA, second largest 25% Class-AAA, Largest25% enrollment Class-AAAA. You'll have regions. Top 4 advance to sectionals. Top 8 from sectionals advance to state for a 16 man bracket. Thank you for explaining this to me. When are they supposed to vote on this? Also how do you think the vote will go?
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Post by wrestling2018 on Mar 17, 2020 10:48:28 GMT -5
The board will vote in April. Everyone is pretty much sure its going to pass.
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Post by guwinster on May 28, 2020 12:11:49 GMT -5
Did the vote actually happen or did it get delayed?
I already mentioned this on another forum, but...I think it's ridiculous that there will be a different number of classifications for Duals than for Traditionals. The only way I'd support this is if there were 7 Dual Championships and 1 Traditional Championship. That way we could have true individual State Champions. Having 7 classes for Duals and 4-5 classes for Traditionals is stupid. If there aren't enough individual wrestlers to have 7 Traditional Championships, then there aren't enough teams to have 7 Dual Championships either. Make the number of championships the same.
Speaking as a former Camden wrestler, this new setup could be really bad for South Georgia wrestling, at least in the State Traditional Tournaments. Each of the Traditional classifications will have close to 100 teams in it (299 teams made it to States last year; GHSA has 468 total schools) The AAAA Traditional group will likely have one region for South Georgia. Looking at the GHSA's 2020-2022 reclassification numbers, the top 100 most populous schools in the state include (by order of student population) Lowndes, Camden, Colquitt, Richmond Hill, Tift, Valdosta, Houston County, Grovetown, Glynn Academy, Lee, Evans, Lakeside Evans, Northside, Warner Robbins, Effingham and South Effingham. That is 16 teams, with Brunswick (the 103rd biggest school) potentially being 17.
With close to a hundred schools in AAAA, I doubt GHSA would draw 16 south GA teams into 2 regions of 8 teams each, leaving the greater-Atlanta area with 14 team regions. It is much more likely that south GA will get screwed with 1 mega region. There is a chance that the Augusta or Warner Robbins area schools (the worst large-school wrestling programs in south/middle GA) get drawn into an Atlanta based region. Also, some of the Warner Robbins/Augusta schools (plus Effingham/S. Effingham) may end up in AAA, but that would only increase the odds that the best south Georgia schools end up in the same region.
Camden and Richmond Hill will probably be the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the state next year (after Woodland, Cartersville). Valdosta was a State Champion 2 years ago. Colquitt is one of the fastest improving programs in the state. Lowndes, Tift, Lee, Effingham and South Effingham are all competent programs too. That would be a ridiculously deep region. I know other schools have had tough regions in the past. There will obviously be other deep regions in 2020-21, but this region will be uniquely top-heavy.
It wouldn't bother me much if there were only 4 classifications for both Duals and Traditionals. If that were the case and Camden got drawn into a tough region alongside Richmond Hill, then oh well...tough luck. However, with the proposed setup there is a good chance Camden and Richmond Hill both win State Duals Championships, but then for Traditionals they are knocking eachother off, two steps before the State Tournament even begins. That is absolutely asinine.
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Post by wrestling2018 on Jun 15, 2020 9:21:31 GMT -5
Everyone just got word nothing changes from last year traditional state tournament. We'll have 7 classifications plus girls at traditional state, but 12 man bracket for all classifications. No word about dual state.
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Post by Dadbod on Jun 17, 2020 5:20:06 GMT -5
Everyone just got word nothing changes from last year traditional state tournament. We'll have 7 classifications plus girls at traditional state, but 12 man bracket for all classifications. No word about dual state. wrestling2018 Does that mean public and private still together for traditional in Single A?
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Post by TigerOne on Jun 18, 2020 6:54:37 GMT -5
Everyone just got word nothing changes from last year traditional state tournament. We'll have 7 classifications plus girls at traditional state, but 12 man bracket for all classifications. No word about dual state. Thanks 2018 for keeping us updated. If you hear/read more please let us know.
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